I'm pretty new to this game. Choosing the right weapon, ammo and gear is one of the most important parts in coming out on top of fighting. Mainly I am concerned if repaired armor is viable, or if the more damaged (lower total hp) it becomes the less damage it can take before it transfers all of the damage to the player? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. So any bullet under 20 pen will never fragment. Bullets also lose both damage and penetration power as they lose speed from air friction over long distances. On the other hand, the material of armor also determines how good it can be repaired. Make bullets fragment when they penetrate flesh which makes it more realistic (fragment on hitting bone). (LogOut/ Hitboxes are always the same, whether you're clad in armor or completely naked, they never change in size or shape. I have searched for answers to this question online but have yet to find any (To my knowledge) with actual dev responses. The maximum probability of fragmentation is 1. The only logical conclusion I can realize is that there is a chance of fragmentation post-pen. To your knowledge, is that possible? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. (LogOut/ From what I have been reading, it seems the flesh damage of each round with sub 20 pen, that has a high fragmentation chance, is inflated in a way to compensate for the current fragmentation bug And when they are able to implement the fragmentation mechanic on these rounds, their flesh damage will be lowered to balance and compensate for the high chance to fragment. 26x75mm distress signal flare (poison green), Can't penetrate in any reasonable amount of hits, Typically doesn't penetrate at all for a large number of hits, or starts with a very low chance and barely increases, Has a very low or no penetration chance initially and very slowly gains chance, Has a low penetration chance initially and slowly gains chance, or quickly damages armor until it penetrates, Starts with a low-medium penetration chance but quickly increases, Penetrates a large percent of the time initially, often quickly going to >90%. | !green | 2023 BATTLESTATE GAMES. A penetrating round does a little bit less durability damage to armor than a round that does not penetrate. Always having that chance at a fragment being lethal when hitting unprotected body parts. It varies, but is usually around 10-15% less. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 5.7x28mm R37.X (R37.X) is a 5.7x28mm ammunition type in Escape from Tarkov. So you can abuse this by using high pen, high fragment bullets. We are all thinking that fragmentation is bugged but it actually is not. Has the fragmentation chance bug been fixed? Because each projectile causes a minimum of 1 durability loss to armor, it becomes effective at breaking down armor and eventually penetrating. Meaning a 60/60 armor is calculated as 60/80, or 75%. The processes and math involved are complex with a lot of different factors, but I will break down the process and give rough estimates of what you can expect from some of the more complicated parts. A 5.7x28mm FN R37.X cartridge with a 2.4 gram open-point bullet made entirely of copper, in a brass case. I know this is old but it excites me as well ! September 9, 2021 in Questions, Recent happenings with blacked limbs, and comments about blackened chest/head from Nikita has gotten me thinking about another bug some of us might be aware of. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Change). Bullets are also capable of penetrating walls and body parts, enabling the same round to damage multiple parts. It does 41 dmg and can easily be reduced to 34 based on the helmet you penetrate doing up to 40% dmg reduction. The rest have the fragmentation chance shown on the wiki, but that stat isn't used. Don't kill streamers if you want to keep your account. This could also give weaker ammo a chance to fight against . (LogOut/ However, it has a high bounce probability on various surfaces. A penetrating round does a little bit less durability damage to armor than a round that does not penetrate. If it is not a bug, glitch or exploit report, please ignore this message. The required angles and the ricochet chance is determined by the helmet and is different for each individual helmet. Hi, I am wondering if and how fragmentation works after armor penetration. Ammo fragmentation From after midnights blog here: Fragmentation is complicated, but at it's core what happens when a bullet fragments is it creates two or more new bullets that have 50% of the original bullet's damage and pen value split between them. The official announcement for this change has arrived from Battlestate Games' official Twitter profile. Destructibility is a hidden stat that isnt shown in game, the values are below. Ryagi, Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. If someone can point me to one that would be amazing, and if by chance a Dev has an answer that would be even better! Escape from Tarkov simulates damage to the body and body armor. If the bullet does not penetrate, "blunt damage" is applied, which lets through a% of the base damage of the bullet to the body part hit. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. There is a serious bug however, where bullets under a certain threshold of pen value cannot fragment at all when hitting players, and the actual fragmentation chance is lower than bullets stat implies due to implementation. The Eyes covers the front 120 degrees horizontally and 30 degrees vertically, creating a small slit from the end of the Top zone down to about the tip of the nose. Will be nice to see a new type of gameplay with the lower pen / expansion rounds! . By Only fragmentation after penetration of terrain. As said in OP we already knew the feature was in the game, and there are posts from months back showcasing bullet deflection, so its not like weve been kept completely out of the blue. Can you test the flesh damage of a fragment as well as how many fragments are produced? I remember a post dating few months back about a guy who dug a fault in the game code that had false formatting resulting in official damage charts and bullet coding not working as intended. Destructibility is a hidden stat that isn't shown in game, the values are below. https://i.gyazo.com/36f4f3aeedca38055da84dbb349d0c2a.png. One shot in the chest with Just wanted to try how long it would take my Macbook Pro TIL, if you watch water through portal, the water dissapears. Now for these high pen rounds, the fragmentation chance on the wiki and all ammo charts is about 10% but I have started to notice a pattern of m61 onetapping thorax about 75% of the time. When shrapnel moves slower than 400 m/s causes more tissue damage irl rips and tears instead of it having a higher velocity and entering cleaner, He isnt asking how it works irl, he's asking how the math works in the game. Ahh M80 This round is like a burger and fries after a long hard day - it may not be the flashiest, but damn does it get the job done. The durability damage taken from bullets is based on the penetration value of the ammo and the armor level of the armor, multiplied by the ammos armor damage % and the armor materials destructibility %. Given the latest reality of bans, are our accounts safe? Bullet weight 5,4 g, muzzle velocity 445470 m/s. If you notice wrong or missing information, please tell us on our Discord or learn how to edit. Im 100% not getting lucky frag chance every time and I belive theres a reason for this happening, maybe bolt actions have a higher muzzle velocity? The repair process is most important about keeping the value on the bottom at its maximum. All tables are responsive. If you are using a phone, turn it sideways for a full view. a 25/25 would be the same durability and pen chance as a 25/80. Get the full episodes here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc05hVZnM-Ehttps://anchor.fm/pogcastliveTwitch. The unofficial Subreddit for Escape From Tarkov, a Hardcore FPS being created by Battlestate Games. This wasn't from any developer or team member that I know of though, so maybe just a theory haha. Your link has been automatically embedded. Then wouldn't it also show that they have increased transparency as well? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); https://www.twitch.tv/nofoodaftermidnight, 0.12 Armor Durability Table - Explanation Inside - 4Game. Far from being the most effective round, but believe us - you definitely don't want to be on the receiving end of the weapon loaded with it. If a ricochet occurs it is the same as the helmet stopping the penetration as far as the penetration calculation is concerned, and blunt damage and durability damage continue as they would normally, however the health and durability damage is significantly lowered to the point that there is almost no blunt damage received and the helmet almost always takes the minimum durability damage, which is 1. Escape from Tarkov simulates damage to the body and body armor. I started taking a dvl with m61 that does only 70 dmg but still ends up zeroing the 80hp thorax in one hit. Bullets can also fragment when penetrating a player's body, dealing 50% bonus damage to the affected body part (Note: Due to a bug this currently only works on limbs). The unofficial Subreddit for Escape From Tarkov, a Hardcore FPS being created by Battlestate Games. The angle of impact has no effect on armor except for helmets, which bullets can ricochet off of. Finally, the Nape continues the last 120 degrees horizontally between the two Ears zones and goes from the bottom of the Top zone down to the same location the Ears end, leaving some unprotected head at the bottom of the neck. So bullet hits arm, fragments to 4 and maybe 2 hit chest. The unofficial Subreddit for Escape From Tarkov, a Hardcore FPS being created by Battlestate Games. May someone explain me how it works please ? This has been implemented in this patch though, noticed it happening, the bullets sometimes deal damage to the limb next to it, and it's a huge amount of damage too, besides this it also applies bleeding. It's easy to prove it doesn't do what he thinks it does. In the above example EffectiveDurability =0.75/0.6=1.25 which means it can still have more than it's maximum durability (100 hitpoints). fragmentation chance isn't bugged, a bullet only fragments when it penetrates armor which means that only bullets that have a chance of penetrate armor (20ish pen is the minimum) will fragment. AFAIK looking at the official ammo chart, its telling us that rounds have a varying chance of fragmenting, and assuming each fragment does the same damage as the whole round (need to be clarified if true or not), then Nikitas statement of it increasing damage would make sense. I've been trying new weapons and having great success with SMGs using ammo with high flesh damage and frag chance, usually 1-2 hit kill on both scav and PMCs even if it wasn't a head or body shot. I noticed that slug had actually a solid 100% chance of fragmentation. 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